Oud profiles with strong heart notes?

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Which countries' ouds (if any) have them apart from India, Malaysia and Cambodia?

Cambodia has it as fruits/florals, but I am chiefly after the intoxicating various colours of resinous incensed woody oud goodness, found in Tigerwood 1995 as purple dignity and in Assam 3000 as hypnotically magnetizing spiced smokiness fused with mesmerizing resinous trees.

I have not yet completely verified this yet, but it seems my skin greatly magnifies base notes while pushing other components to faint shadows that must be inhaled deeply to get a smell of. Hence, I only smell the wisps of kyara (barely) and other fragrances with a lot of nose power and consequent scent fatigue. This, it seems that most regions of oud are not worth my skin's time (it has to draw attention to itself with a main scent profile, or it pushes away instead, it seems).

For China, the bolstered base note on my skin mostly leaves the smell of camphory green, and Archipelago and ouds from Maroke deposit varying degrees of jungly earth.

Not my ideal in a personal fragrance that lasts hours and will be smelled by others, wnd not worth the $ to smell like dirt (when I can get it for free). :D

Thanks!

PS: Will update with results of completed skin testing later. :)
 
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kesiro

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I am not sure if heart notes, or lack thereof, is specific to oud growing regions of wood species. I suspect it has a lot to do with the distillation and extraction techniques by the artisans.
Skin chemistry does vary and different oils interact differently but I doubt it is possible to just choose oils with certain characteristics and have them work for you. I also think that as your experience with a particular oil grows, your perception of the scent will likely change to some extent and often for the better.
There are many oils I initially did not 'get' and felt did not work on me, only to come to realize later on, they became ones I liked and in some cases they became favorites.
I say sample but do not be impatient with your analysis.
 
#3
Okay. How many weeks does it usually take to fully grasp an oud, though? I don't want to be a crazy old man that huffs oud and comprehends the meaning of kyara notes after 50 years... ;D
 

kesiro

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Okay. How many weeks does it usually take to fully grasp an oud, though? I don't want to be a crazy old man that huffs oud and comprehends the meaning of kyara notes after 50 years... ;D
LOL!! I am not talking that long! I think I should have referred to mostly the number of wearings as opposed to length of time. Personally, if I do not care for an oil after 5-10 weraings, I will probably not bond with it. Of course, YMMV.
I know it may be obvious but I have to be careful I do not apply oud after using any kind of scented soaps, lotions, bath wash, etc. Usually that gives undesirable results.
 
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On my skin, it doesn't matter what it is, it changes. Over and over again. I'll lose the top and the base will be loud. Then, I go into a different temperature area, there goes the mid-notes and I lose the base. Get in the sun, hello top! And this isn't even taking into account whether I am well hydrated or what I had eaten the day before that wearing. I notice this most prominently with the wee sample I have of Jing Shen Lu, but Yusuf and Dhul Q do it as well. Haroon will be in my life, soon, and I look forward to see what scent kaleidoscope that produces! Adam told me to expect a sort of sticky mangosteen, like DQ's drydown. Since that's my favorite part of the DQ experience, I am wigglin' around with anticipation!
 

PEARL

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@Ahmet Öztürk it's weird how oils react differently on people, it would be difficult to predict which oils would "act" correctly for you, I'd think it be on an oil by oil case bases rather than any particular region.
I have normal skin but I usually use an unscented good moisturizer before applying oud oil.
 
#9
But I cannot try all of them, not enough $.

But, I was mistaken about Thai (Jing Shen Lu), the profile works marvelously.

A delicious tantalizing clementine medicinal scent laced with echoes of kyara and sweetened orange peel. The drydown smells of sweet clementine rind with powdered kyara dancing in the back.

I MUST buy a litre of Jing Shen Lu at any cost (respected brother Ensar, what is your nut-case amount bulk discount)? :D

That being said, I didn't particularly like the overall scent of medicinal China and earthy Papua much, so there's that. :)
 
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Okay. How many weeks does it usually take to fully grasp an oud, though? I don't want to be a crazy old man that huffs oud and comprehends the meaning of kyara notes after 50 years... ;D
Well, grasping fragrance is grasping will-o'-the-wisps. Notes, either of classical music or Oud as such, are subtle nuances to be assimilated. Yes, Mozart's symphony can be grasped, so does Ensar's, Agar Aura's, Feel's or Imperial's, because after all a medium is involved. But music and Oud as such stay aloof from descriptive flowery expressions like barnyard, buttery, honey, reisnous, smokey etc.
Ode to Grecian Urn by Keats is yet to be grasped after decades. Oud, sandal, musk are rather mysteriously divine to be fully grasped. Claims can be personal. Bliss is to be assimilated, without words. Shakespearean expression "There's beggary in love that can be reckoned".
But expressions about oud oils help one decide which one is to be grasped next.
 
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bhanny

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Well, grasping fragrance is grasping will-o'-the-wisps. Notes, either of classical music or Oud as such, are subtle nuances to be assimilated. Yes, Mozart's symphony can be grasped, so does Ensar's, Agar Aura's, Feel's or Imperial's, because after all a medium is involved. But music and Oud as such stay aloof from descriptive flowery expressions like barnyard, buttery, honey, reisnous, smokey etc.
Ode to Grecian Urn by Keats is yet to be grasped after decades. Oud, sandal, musk are rather mysteriously divine to be fully grasped. Claims can be personal. Bliss is to be assimilated, without words. Shakespearean expression "There's beggary in love that can be reckoned".
But expressions about oud oils help one decide which one is to be grasped next.
Nice post. Thanks for sharing!
 
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The heart note for any Aggarwood is infinite with the hands of the distiller , to so soak or not soak ? to use steel or Copper or Old School Clay Pots ? To use different method of temperature control with condensers ? Using Pyrex Condensers or even Bamboo condensers ? What type of water ? The way to collect the oil ? there is a method to the madness & the distillers are the MC's for sure , but if the MC makes a mistake during distillation & new scent profile comes out , and just may be, he or she will think twice before distilling the next project to see what variables could be , Hence the Wood Talks with help of the distiller ,
1 example , Oud Mostafa # 5 E.O : Top note off the Bat so Barnyard that I thought it was a Assam , but its a Cambodi , So strong and Cambodi scent comes out and barnyard leaves the building with heart notes piercing with intense musky notes like 400 year old Cottage , a Gem in a bottle for sure
another Example : I have a Hindi I got in Bangladesh from a Old Guy in Pink City Mall, Top note was so Borneo ,I look at my friend and asked him , 'Did you got to Malaysia to get this Oil'? he laughed and replied no? , 'It's from Hills of Sylhet Old wood and the hands of the distiller the scent came out like a Borneo , but dry down was pure hindi and sour vibe " & he Pulled out another oil same wood done different and pure Burmese scent profile and Hindi dry down'
So I learned that a distillers mind must be thinking 1 million ways to juice any wood before hitting the plate ,and some times a mistake can be a bench mark for a new scent profile for the heartwood note , May God make it easy for all distillers on the planet ( Sorry for me ranting away)
 
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