Blessed days of Dhul Hijjah

kooolaid79

Well-Known Member
#1
Greetings Oud fanatics
As many of you know, there has been a lot going on different forums on the discussion of quality and character of certain distiller(s) and the admin team.
I am not writing this post to throw fuel on the fire but trying to water it out.
If anyone doesn't like a certain product, please don't buy it. You are not being forced to buy the oil, burner, bracelet, etc. However if you do buy an Oil and it is not to your satisfaction, there will always be someone who really loves(d) that Oil. Ask them directly if they would like to purchase that oil from you. If you don't have their contact information, I am sure an email could be provided from someone.
Lastly, I would like to remind myself first and then everyone that these 10 days of Dhul Hijjah are considered according some scholars better then the day/nights of Ramadan where a person could earn so much reward from Allah SWT. Rather then wasting our time belittling people and loosing so much reward/hasanaat, we could all seek Istighfaar (forgiveness from Allah). Please don't waste these days as there are only 5 left.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone and I ask for your forgiveness.
 

kesiro

Well-Known Member
#3
Oh, and one more thing. Refraining from expressing a general rage about the uninformed declarations about me on the other forum, I will make a few comments just to clear up several misconceptions. I answer to three entities: myself, my wife, and the God Almighty. Nobody, especially on a forum, is my boss. Nobody directs how I conduct my affairs here. Nobody contacted me to stay silent, say certain things or ignore anything for that matter. Sometimes, as the boss of my own business, a father, and husband, this place is lower priority, AND, in all cases, I feel getting involved in petty drivel simply diminishes me as a person.
Peace out.
 

Ensar Oud

Well-Known Member
#4
In the book Hagakure by Yamamoto Tsunetomo there is a line that says something like, "It is inauspicious when one thing becomes two".

There are some things going on and as a member of this forum I feel compelled to stand up. There's an idea held by many on Ouddict.com that trouble and finger pointing comes from here. @Ouddict goes on to ask in one of his post, "@Ensar why do you bring me into this". It seems that no one realizes that @Ensar, or any other member here, DID NOT initiate anything towards @Ouddict or members of his forum. The fact is that @Oudlover interjected @Ouddict into the discussion when he began to spew information about @Ensar buying/swapping/winning/getting delivered by carrier pigeon his own oils back from @Ouddict. Information he undoubtedly got from @Ouddict so he did in effect act as @Ouddict's mouthpiece, anybody with any history could see that. All on a thread where @Kruger simply offered a provenance verification service that @Oudlover did hijack with his agenda and propaganda. One thing became two. @Oudlover went on to say that there were "lies" he was going to expose that until now still have not been circumstantiated.

@Ouddict is on Ouddict.com right now, 6 pages in post #110 still lying and saying that is was @Ensar that mentioned him first, which is NOT THE CASE, @Oudlover with a seemingly(IMO known) agenda did, blame him if you're looking for fault because it was not @Ensar or any other current member here who started this rubbish or mentioned you first.

@Oudlover was banned before any ensuing unproven crap storm was started here. @Oudlover people get banned from internet forums everyday B, I was banned from Ouddict.com for disagreeing with Ouddict and as he say's, "Remember, next time it might be you on the receiving end when he sees you or your actions as not conducive to his interests". @Oudlover when I was "banned" from Ouddict.com, I didn't come here and start a 6 page and going, point the finger at the "opponent" as if all wrong comes from them, pity party thread; you did and I hope all of the support makes you feel better about yourself. @Ouddict you are the captain of the ship and ultimate sole controller there and that you've allowed that thread to fester this long is deplorable and truly shows the content of your character. The one thing I can say @Ouddict is that you are consistent, I can trust and rely on you to allow and spearhead the negative wolf pack mentality. I do expect rebuttal but if you come with no decisive evidence, save it. And if you're too busy and you'll get back to us later as per usual just be quiet.

Six pages and going of nonsense, still no proof of anything, conjecture, innuendo and noise; but then again my Granny always told me, "empty barrel makes the most noise".

@Rai Munir I usually have to read your post multiple times to begin to scratch the surface of how much wisdom lies within, I thank you and men like @Nikhil S and @Ammar for trying to be the voice of reason but some people have their minds made up and that's never going to change.
Whoops, l had no idea @Ouddict was addressing me there. As a general FYI, I haven't visited the site for upwards of 6 months, and have no intention of visiting it again in my lifetime.

It is Dhul Hijjah and the deen is good counsel, so let me place myself before the firing squad and tell you why.

Just as it is reprehensible to backbite & slander is a sin, so is witnessing it. Listening to or reading the slander of another makes you guilty by extension, unless the sole purpose of your imbibing is to take the oppressor to task and call him out for what he is. Which is what @PEARL is doing, may Allah reward him.

If you want to know what I think of Ouddict.com.... To me it is the spiritual equivalent of a public toilet. The janitors are themselves guilty of pissing all over the walls, and on the semi-comatose party animals sprawling in their own vomit.

Such a visage, whether in the physical or spiritual realm, is not a wholesome one. It stains the heart. One wouldn't enter such a place if desperate and in a foreign country, never mind bring it into one's own home.
 
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Alkhadra

Guest
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I hope everyone has a blessed month of Dhul Hijjah and may God bring you all peace, prosperity, and a ton of Oud to enjoy. :D
 
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Kruger

Well-Known Member
#6
Never argue with an idiot as they will pull you down to their level and beat you with experience.

That cliche doesn't apply to me in this instance. Believe me when I tell you @Oudlover I can debate with you, come down to your level of idiocrasy and still win; because I am that idiot, stupid even.

@Oudlover this is chess not checkers son. I knew beyond doubt when I said not to respond that one of you would. Another example of how you're so very easily manipulated. But, I would like to thank you.

~Thank you for attacking my intelligence, good conversational tactic, attack the debater to deflect from the subject matter.
~Thanks for not sticking to the points I made in my OP. You did infact interject @Ouddict into the conversation, you did what good do boys do. (Thanks @Alkhadra)
~Thanks for alerting the Wolfpack to my post here, maybe they'll read it and the thread you were banned in and see that @Ouddict is lying when he points the finger here, as well as seeing that you were banned for being a perfectly played pawn. You opened that can of worms and still have yet to prove any wrong doing or anything else save your gullibility.

And please @Oudlover on the topic of intelligence, please in the whole wide world of oud, go edit your post and correctly spell guaranteed.

@Ouddict nice wordplay. @Oudlover did initially seek authentication of his bottle, even though he knew what he had as he procured it from you, unless of course bottles you sell need to be authenticated, which was not the case. One thing became two and he then sought to find out if his bottle was opened or unopened, got varying answers and went on to say that he'd continue to list it as unopened. He apparently became agitated about the answers he received, acted as your mouthpiece, went on a tirade and began to post drivel about some deal between you and Ensar, nothing more or less. But, believe as you will.
I’m the one who started this whole thing, so I’d like to put an end to it.

The cry-me-a-river thread on Ouddict began because Oudlover wanted to ‘reveal the truth’ after the Illuminati stopped him from doing so here.

But here’s how I see it:

I welcomed everyone to contact me if they wanted to know whether a seller got his/her bottle from us. If somebody didn’t get it directly from us, then it’s on him to explain the chain of ownership to the potential buyer – obviously, I have no involvement at that point.

I posted what I did because we got asked about certain sellers and because people did end up with oud that was not as advertised. Where I come from that does justify a degree of ‘caution’. The issues might have been resolved amicably behind the scenes, but they still happened – and could have been avoided. That’s all I was trying to say, and offered our help verifying the owners to add credibility to any potential deal, not to undermine resellers. I would have thought that my posting a sale on behalf of someone else clearly contradicts that claim. *sigh*

Oudlover posted a picture and asked me what I thought about it. He did not ask me to validate who he got it from, which is what I had offered to do. Another member said the bottle looks opened. Ensar concurred.

Whoever shares @PEARL’s IQ might need to re-read his post a couple of times but I’m sure they’ll eventually see how Oudlover then went on to make one thing two.

My thread was never about Ensar and how or what he got from who and where. Oudlover made it so. And now he took it elsewhere where it’s turned into a sickening cesspool of slander with all the usual suspects taking a swim, beseeching ad nauseam the ad hominem for the fog to recede and the veil to be lifted……… all because he posted a random picture that doesn’t tell you anything, except that it looks like it had been opened once. And he didn’t like the reaction.

Maybe Luigi can close this thread as well? Until then, I’ll hand the mic over to our esteemed master Al-Shareef Oudh.
 

PEARL

Well-Known Member
#7
According to Hadith, Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa salaam said, "The most hated person in the sight of Allah is the most quarrelsome person". Sahih al-Bukhari Vol. 3, Book 43, Hadith No. 637

Narrated Abu Umamah Allâh’s Messenger sallallahu alaihi wa salaam said: “I guarantee a home in Paradise for a person who gives up arguments and disputes".

With that I have removed my post here, apologize to Sidi Abdul Wahab( @kooolaid79 ) for hijacking your thread on the last 10 days of Dhul Hijjah, my apology to any participants in and bystanders to this quarrel and most importantly astaghfirullah, Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala forgive me for enjoining in on any quarrel and especially those that have absolutely nothing to do with me, Ameen
 
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forgiveness is the key to peace - "as flowers bloom, seasons change , hairs turn gray , we should pray for all mankind , def dumb and blind person understands better than a person with vision , proper education helps the mass , the task to lead man to the right path is a daunting mission " Free style Poetry from Ismail Rahman , peace and love:oops:
 
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Alkhadra

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According to Hadith, Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa salaam said, "The most hated person in the sight of Allah is the most quarrelsome person". Sahih al-Bukhari Vol. 3, Book 43, Hadith No. 637

Narrated Abu Umamah Allâh’s Messenger sallallahu alaihi wa salaam said: “I guarantee a home in Paradise for a person who gives up arguments and disputes".

With that I have removed my post here, apologize to Sidi Abdul Wahab( @kooolaid79 ) for hijacking your thread on the last 10 days of Dhul Hijjah, my apology to any participants in and bystanders to this quarrel and most importantly astaghfirullah, Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala forgive me for enjoining in on any quarrel and especially those that have absolutely nothing to do with me, Ameen
Barak Allahu Fek brother @PEARL, the spirit of Dhul Hijjah lives within you! Everyone can learn from what you've said, as I have.
 

kesiro

Well-Known Member
#10
According to Hadith, Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa salaam said, "The most hated person in the sight of Allah is the most quarrelsome person". Sahih al-Bukhari Vol. 3, Book 43, Hadith No. 637

Narrated Abu Umamah Allâh’s Messenger sallallahu alaihi wa salaam said: “I guarantee a home in Paradise for a person who gives up arguments and disputes".

With that I have removed my post here, apologize to Sidi Abdul Wahab( @kooolaid79 ) for hijacking your thread on the last 10 days of Dhul Hijjah, my apology to any participants in and bystanders to this quarrel and most importantly astaghfirullah, Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala forgive me for enjoining in on any quarrel and especially those that have absolutely nothing to do with me, Ameen
There is an immense amount of wisdom in those quotes my friend. Definitely something to strive for in general.