Let Oleoresin Talk (LOT) Project

Discussion in 'Artisan's Talk' started by Taha, Apr 11, 2017.

  1. kesiro

    kesiro Moderator Staff Member

    Professor PEARL has spoken and we are all that much smarter. Well done ol' chap! I not only second, but third your observations. I would also include Lavanya with those two. The DNA is very similar IMO. I personally find these oleoresin emphasis oils extremely compelling and certainly crazy addictive. They have certainly expanded my olfactory horizon. There is some serious craftsmanship going on, not to mention that the wood had to be great.
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  2. bhanny

    bhanny Moderator Staff Member

    Awesome analysis my fine feathered friend. As usual. I greatly enjoy your posts.
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  3. Shabby

    Shabby Active Member

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  4. kesiro

    kesiro Moderator Staff Member

    b'oudsta rhymes has got it going on!
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  5. Tuff

    Tuff Active Member

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  6. RobertOne

    RobertOne Well-Known Member

    How on earth did you get a video of me experiencing Oud for the first time!?
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  7. Tuff

    Tuff Active Member

    Watch this guy try oud for the first time during the second half of the video. The oud sampling starts at 3:25 . And be prepared to LULZ very hard.

    P.S. Too bad he didn't try the 80's version of Grey Flannel before '88, the violet note is amazing before they had to stop using it. Speaking of which, I missed a shitload of good stuff that sold out in the few weeks I was gone. :/
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  8. Taha

    Taha Well-Known Member

    Million-dollar question for you all...

    Do you enjoy more 'dramatic' oils, or 'fuller' oils?
    I would define dramatic as having a more prominent contrast between the top notes and base notes, and define fuller as being more 'stuffed' in the middle.
    Mind you, 'fuller' does NOT necessarily mean auxiliary notes (although it usually does), rather for the purposes of my question its in comparison to 'dramatic', namely: the top-to-base contrast is toned down more. Smoothed out, if you will.

    Both dramatic as well as fuller profiles are possible with high grade as well as low grade wood. And oleoresin-centric as well as auxiliary-oomphed oils.
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  9. kesiro

    kesiro Moderator Staff Member

    I am all about the drama my friend. :D
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  10. Taha

    Taha Well-Known Member

    When you're pulling an espresso shot, you can increase the yield by making the grind coarser. Within the same 25-35 second pull time, you'll get more volume, more flavor, more intensity...
    ...but also more bitterness, more sourness, more weirdness... and other stuff getting extracted which is less-than optimal.

    With oud, its the same. There are ways to boost the yield the conventional way, but this method pulls out much of (what I consider) the less-desirable compounds. I'm almost certain that's the stuff Ensar was referring to in his CPC post in the Cambodi Musings thread.
    This is the stuff that gives oud oils the illusion of 'fullness'. Well, I shouldn't say illusion, because there are indeed those added compounds that make it to the final product, the oil.
    Of course, if done right, "fuller" oils can smell pretty awesome too. Its usually a matter of taste (it so happens I enjoy sushi, and the occasional biryani too). ;)

    Speaking of CPC, its uncanny Ensar went over those points in his post. I actually had a blog post written up (and already proof-read by our sheriff) which talks about the very same topic, I'll be publishing that along with my next product release.

    @kesiro, I'm with you on more dramatic. ;)
    Curious to know what everyone else enjoys!
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  11. Rasoul S

    Rasoul S Member

    Indeed. Why is that?
  12. Oudamberlove

    Oudamberlove Well-Known Member

    The volatile top notes during the initial heating may mask the underlying woody notes, if you allow them to clear-out then cut the heat, you get a chance to capture those secondary notes when you reheat the wood.

    With Oud oil, some top notes also have a masking effect. I noticed it when I tried some blending.
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  13. Rasoul S

    Rasoul S Member

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