Ahh I hear you about the CE. I went to the extent of asking Ensar if he has any buried to see if he could dig that up for me. He said the China Sayang was on par with the CE if not better. The next thing I knew, I purchased the China Sayang. It took me way back to one of my first Ouds, the Royal Kinam. So my recommendation is if you don’t have the CS. Do yourself a favor and blindly buy that. It’s a no brainer when you want something of super and ultra rare Oud. I think once you get the CS, you will be able to let go of the thought of CE. Just my 2 cents.