Pardon me
@kesiro, just one more thing....
I spent a good amount of time and effort contributing to Ouddict.com, I even preferred the busy-ness of that forum. It’s busier; busier with many good natured people who share. It is also exponentially busier with bitterness, hatred, duplicity and dubious behavior that I witnessed and called out. If anybody wonders the reason for my banning, it was due to challenging that same dubious status quo with common sense, all of the issues I pointed out still remain unanswered but rather brushed over with distraction. The same thing has happened once again and as per usual has devolved into barbaric savagery from a few on Ouddict. I pointed out that a vendor blindsided out of nowhere another vendor, saying that his words were bastardized when in effect he uses similar words in the same context. A matter still unanswered and the discourse following the usual pattern of being an attack on Ensar. The other forum is not bad just a few spoiled apples that spoil the bunch, I’ll directly address those.
Jawed of Al Shareef Oudh, I love useful, true and technical discourse but much about distillation and oud in general is obviously not fact as each man sorts his chip accordingly to his wishes; we have to respect different ways in which the other does so. The primary purpose of much of your so called discourse is aimed directly at “correcting” other vendors, anybody with intellect knows exactly why you do so, you fail to stand on your own. You find every way to badmouth other vendors in the name of objectivity and there only being one way, your way. You seek to separate yourself from the other online vendors while at the same time mimicking their style and delivery. You have very little to offer except innuendo and subliminally bashing other vendors in the guise of your so called technical discourse. From Oud vs Oudh, where you claimed your superiority over vendors that use Oud, based on Arabian heritage about the use of your Indian transliteration Oudh, and likened yourself to prominent historical Arabic figures and them to Tom Ford. To your use of the results of one research paper to show Chinese oils don’t have barny notes when you saw that people were discussing another vendors Chinese oils that do have barny notes, very easy to see the direction of flight you prepared for that arrow. To your talk of the usage of the term oleoresin where you basically called another vendor an ignorant bastard, where I showed you that you indeed use similar terms in the same context, etc, ad nauseum. In every instance you were joyously and emphatically wrong. I understand tradition and you follow a such a strict one that will only allow you to keep producing the same resin-less oud oil products; that is until your cohorts applaud you for finding a way to do so. There is arrogance and pomposity in your heart. You attack using religious scripture and Hadith all the while there were times you and myself were engaged in heated debate and understanding our Ummah I greeted you with salaams despite our entanglement, and your ultra ego would not allow you to return them. You act with a sense of deserving entitlement for authority as if you earned it by actually doing something rather than standing in the shadows of your forefathers; you lack humility. Step outside of the shadow and be your own man. One of your favorite mantras is, “Let the customer decide”. Yet, when your Ceen was compared to Fragrant Harbor you didn’t merely say you disagreed with the customers assessment which would have been fine. Instead you laid out detailed discourse of the precise method that the customer MUST use in order to make his decision, then at the end had the condescending audacity to say that you yourself don’t even use that method. Did you let the customer decide or did you decide for him? I applauded Imperial Oud for truly letting the customer decide whereas you acted as if threatened and attempted to dictate terms. The sad thing is I could go on and on about your self-righteous, duplicitous, seemingly jealous hearted behavior and you and your merry men would fail to see the forest for the trees.
To the guy with the beard, the one who I detected his Algerian descent by his usage of Arabic, he who in a spirit of deserving request free bottles of oud, the new and up and coming oud distiller/vendor, you F4R1d0uX. You started alright before following and becoming infected by a bacteria worse than MRSA, VRSA and VRE combined. Can you please tell me how it all goes down, how does it happen? How do you in the course of doing your business whether by phone or visiting distillers in far off lands, miraculously and magically begin to engage in conversation about Ensar that results in mockery and the sharing of saved screenshots about him from only Allah knows when and where? Do you bring him up, do they bring him up, what? Are you guys standing around the pot then begin to gaze into the twinkle of each others eyes and say in unison, ENSAR! I mean, that is how you got the screenshots isn’t it? Focusing on Ensar instead of handling you business. You guys like to project yourselves onto others and think since you’re focusing and revolving around Ensar and what he does that everybody else does the same thing. Ensar, like lemonade, is a popular drink and he still is. Even if you try to talk your way out of your actions, they’ll only end up focusing back on Ensar. Gee whiz man, do you, focus on what you’ll bring to market, make yourself your only competition.
*****Mandeel AlMandeel, the man I call my play cousin, my words are sincere and from the heart as that’s the way I speak. I like and respect you Mandeel. When I look at your picture and listen to your words even when we have passionately disagreed, I know you too are speaking solely from your heart, not a gang mentality. Your thoughts, experience, beef, whatever, are yours not because of group think, that’s truly what I feel and I highly respect a man that stands on his own. There was a time you absolutely rubbished OM5 in relation to OM4 in discussion with me. Later you came to say that OM5 was one of your favorite oils, I may have the oils backwards but you get the message. That took courage considering, but no matter what, you’re friend with some of the people whose feelings just happen to align with some of yours. You Mandeel are your own man, I feel when you do whatever it is you do, you did it because YOU wanted to, without regard for what anybody thinks, I can get along with that; respect and honor play cousin. You are not among them.
peter4ptv, yours will be short, you’re a foolish, following imbecile who doesn’t know any better, simple.
Ouddict, you run a forum that as I said, I preferred. Busy in good but unfortunately exponentially busier in bad. The troops attitude is often a reflection of those at the helm. You’ve turned plenty of people off. You run what you incessantly report to be an open forum. Yet, you electronically discourage people and harass members when they don’t follow you and begin to challenge your agenda or iniquity. You operate in back channels where you approach members and warn them not to say certain things or risk getting banned; you’ve done it to me and it can be witnessed on your board of others who you’ve done it to, one of which is respected Ammar; who departed for a while due to your dubious shenanigans. You operate an open forum where your henchmen have approached and warned
@Nikhil S simply for liking a post. Be steadfast
@Nikhil S you are not alone, there is a band of members that have felt the same discord and wrath, we are with you. Is it really open? Or is it only open to your self serving agenda? You operate a forum that when issues come up and dubious behavior is shown to you, you suddenly have to catch a flight and promise to deal with issues that you never do. You operate a forum where you come as a wolf in sheeps clothing, you play the helpless innocent victim and accuse others of being back stabbers, yet you stockpile daggers and other weapons in the form of screenshots and evidence to be used as ammunition intended to hurt others in your bloodletting and thirst for power and control. At present you are building a weapon of mass destruction that’s going to take you two weeks to assemble!!!! Are those the actions of an innocent man? Or are they the actions of a felonious, war mongering charlatan. You operate a forum where you feign to cower at someone calling you a thief. If a man has a debt that’s owed to him by another and gets the run around by that other as if he’ll never get what’s owed, what is that man to think? The debt becomes in effect stolen property until it is returned to it’s rightful owner and the one who owes becomes in effect a thief. Don’t you understand that? All of you answers to anything is the same dreck we've had to endure from the inception of Ouddict.
There is so much more that I’ve witnessed as a well regarded member and now; I’m am not a vendor and don't want to be, nor do I give any partiality to any particular vendor despite being partial to particular vendors product. That’s a concept and action the feeble minded can’t separate.
But what will they do with it? There will likely be rebuttal. Will they mock my PEARL of wisdom, say it’s too long, fake not being able to understand when they know exactly what I’m talking about? Or will they actually address the fullness of the content without reducing and answering it in soundbites that continue to forward their agenda.